Hello everyone! May I have some advice please?

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Lou
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Post by Lou » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:23 pm

Hello Astrid,

The booster is an annual one that is recommended in the UK. As far as I'm aware it is for Parvovirus, Distemper & Leptospirosis & other conditions, but the names escape me! Hopefully someone will be able to advise me.
Should I be questioning the booster, do they cause side effects too? It's a mine field isn't it?!

Thank you again for yor help!

Lou x

Astrid
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Post by Astrid » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:52 pm

Hello Lou,

in the Netherlands we have vaccines for Rabies and Distemper that work at least for 3 years. Rabies is the only vaccine I give my girl every 3 years because she had a titre test for that and that allows me to take her on vacation to GB and Scandinavia. You don't need a booster for the other vaccines every year. At the age of 6 dogs won't get Parvo. If you are not sure about Distemper, take a titre test. Lepto should be done every year because rats are everywhere.

Vaccinations can cause side effect and for epileptics that means seizures.
Regards,
Astrid.Image

My forum: http://epilepsiebijhonden.actieforum.com/forum.htm (which means epilepsy in dogs) and my (Dutch) weblog: http://epilepsiebijhonden.hyves.nl

Lou
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Post by Lou » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:00 pm

Hello Astrid,

I think the booster is for Leptospirosis, Parvovirus, distemper & possibly other conditions, but I can't remember. Hopefully someone else will advise me on that.

Thanks, Lou x

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Post by Mandypop » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:00 am

In the UK we are not offered seperate injections - it's a yearly booster with several vaccines, ( parvo, leptosirosis, distemper etc). Vets in the UK seem very against not having dogs vaccinated.

The other thing to be cautious of is flea and worming treatments, again vets will try and convince you that these are not linked to seizures.

My dog Poppy's seizures started within 48h of worming with Drontal PLUS. I still to this day am very suspicious that this was the cause of her seizures.

Poppy's latest seizures seemed to be linked to anti-inflammatory medication for foot injuries, we had been seizure free for 2 years and then all went pear shaped and her PB level dropped real low and seizures started up again - her last seizures was within 12h of anti inflammatory medication.

Like you say, it's a minefield, it will be daunting to start with and things do get easier.

Good luck with Vinnie.
Poppy - 9 year old whippet/greyhound (20 kg)

First seizure- 17th Oct 2006
Last seizure - 17th Nov 2009

90mg Pb twice daily
320mg KBr daily

MK's mom
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Post by MK's mom » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:57 am

In the States all of the veterinarian schools are moving towards a 3 year protocol. Some vets will tell you that vaccinations are needed every year because it generates revenue for them! In lieu of customers not vaccinating their dogs annualy, the vets are asking people to do 'annual check ups' to make up for the lost revenue from vaccines! The vet that owns the practice I take my dog to told me this, so I know it's true.

People aren't vaccinated every year throughout their lives and I can't see why a dog needs to be pumped full of chemicals. they're finding out that the vaccines administered like that are detrimental for some dogs, even though most of them are ok. The ones who suffer from the vaccines are considered collateral damage, but tell that to those sweet souls and their owners!! HOD is being linked to distemper shots, too. the boy I currently have hasn't had shots in over 3 years and I'm afraid to get them. He had his puppy and booster shots as a young lad and hasn't had anymore. I have titered him as well, but was told by more than one person that titers are like blood pressure readings, they fluctuate throughout the day, so the readings aren't always reliable. what to do, what to do?
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
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MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

claires friend
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Post by claires friend » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:43 pm

Morgan had gone 5 1/2 months without a seizure ( her longest run ever) and then had a Grand Mal within 8 hours of getting Heartworm meds .Now the best we have gotten is 1 month. The only thing I can wash her in is Dawn Dishwashing soap. The triggers are amazing. Now if only we could get our Vets to believe us !!
Susan Marie
Morgan -Foster Golden, now ours FOREVER !!
First seizure Aug 16, 2006 @9 months old ,very low thyroid
She has been with me since the end of July 07
150mg PB BID
.5 soloxine BID
400 Kbr BID

Astrid
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Post by Astrid » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:34 pm

Mandypop wrote:In the UK we are not offered seperate injections - it's a yearly booster with several vaccines, ( parvo, leptosirosis, distemper etc). Vets in the UK seem very against not having dogs vaccinated.
Well, that pretty standard in the Netherlands too, but that doesn't mean that you have to accept that. Vaccinations are necessary but don't overdo this.
My vet sends me I reminder every year for the "cocktail" booster. I am only taking Lepto and I had to explain (something he knows) why I only wanted that vaccine.
Regards,
Astrid.Image

My forum: http://epilepsiebijhonden.actieforum.com/forum.htm (which means epilepsy in dogs) and my (Dutch) weblog: http://epilepsiebijhonden.hyves.nl

Carolyn
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Post by Carolyn » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:58 pm

I have to chime in on the vacine issue. I used to get all my critters yearly vaccines, what ever the vet said they needed they got. Over the years his practice changed to 2 year boosters, then he told me that once they had thier 1st booster it really wasn't neccesary to give anything other than rabies. Im sure that if you were exposing your dog to other dogs in the show ring or dog parks you might want to get boosters. I no longer give boosters.
Carolyn
Kiya 11yr Shiloh Shepherd
PB 60mg am 90mg pm, 1teas kbr 1200mg, turmeric paste
1000mg milkthistle bid
First seizure 11/27/05
Last seizure 5/21/15

MK's mom
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Post by MK's mom » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:43 am

The show people were some of the first ones fighting the vets and the animal hospitals to change their vaccine protocols to 3 years, so they aren't the ones that ought to be feared.

Vivian
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
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MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

Carolyn
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Post by Carolyn » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:33 pm

Exposing your dog to other dogs was my point.
Carolyn
Kiya 11yr Shiloh Shepherd
PB 60mg am 90mg pm, 1teas kbr 1200mg, turmeric paste
1000mg milkthistle bid
First seizure 11/27/05
Last seizure 5/21/15

Lou
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Post by Lou » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:08 pm

Sadly at the moment Epilepsy is not our biggest worry! Vinnie is seriously ill & is at a referral centre, he's been there for almost 2 weeks.

On 24th Jan he became poorly quite quickly, it's a long story, but it turned out that his liver had twisted, he had life saving surgery but for whatever reason he isn't recovering! I am very worried about the outcome!
Everything is pointing towards an existing liver disease/problem which wasn't picked up by my vet prior to putting Vinnie on Phenobarbitone!!! The specialist said that Vinnie needs seizure protection more than ever whilst he is so ill, so at the moment is very reluctant to change him to potassium bromide.

I am very upset! We have tried to have him home twice but he just doesn't manage when he's taken off of the IV antibiotics, it's very distressing to see him like this!!! Just 2 weeks ago he was a healthy, 39kg, lively 6 year old Weimaraner!

I would appreciate any help if anyone has experience of liver torsion or of liver disease in general? I am desperate for any information please?

Thank you, Lou

MK's mom
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Post by MK's mom » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:17 am

YOu can contact Dr. Jean Dodds, hemopet@hotmail.com. I don't know if she can help with this particular matter and if not, maybe she knows someone who can. I've never heard of liver torsion before, so I'm useless to you.

Please keep us posted.

Vivian
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
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MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

Lou
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Post by Lou » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:49 am

Vinnie has had alot of complications. We are running out of options now! Sorry I don't have better news!

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Post by Maysie » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:57 pm

Hi Lou,
I just wanted to say that I'm thinking of you and sending positive vibes to you and Vinnie. I really hope things improve soon.
Maysie x
Maysie & Toby
8.5 yo 40kg fawn greyhound
My beautiful 'pointy' heart dog :)

Lou
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Post by Lou » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:33 am

I am heartbroken to say that Vinnie couldn't fight any longer & we had to say goodbye to him this afternoon. He was a fantastic boy, I love him dearly & am totally devastated that he is gone!!!

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