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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:14 am
by adajadesmom
Hi, I remembered seeing a post on a site I get on frequently and went back and did a search. This may not be the brand you are using but thought I'd post what I found anyway.

"Wal-Mart Says Removed Chinese-Made Dog Treats Over Deadly Chemical Wednesday, August 22, 2007


ADVERTISEMENTNEW YORK �

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) said it pulled two Chinese-made dog treats from its shelves nearly a month earlier, and tests now show they had traces of melamine, a chemical found in pet food that was blamed for the deaths of pets and led to a massive recall earlier this year.

The two types of dog treats � Chicken Jerky Strips manufactured by Import-Pingyang Pet Product Co. and Chicken Jerky manufactured by Shanghai Bestro Trading � were removed from its stores on July 26, Wal-Mart spokeswoman Deisha Galberth said in a statement.

After 17 sets of tests, "the latest advice from our testing laboratory shows trace levels of melamine," Galberth said.

The products will not be sold anymore, and a computerized block has been placed on the product at cash registers as an added precaution, Galberth said.

The Associated Press reported earlier that Wal-Mart had removed those two types of dog treats last month after customers complained that the products had made their pets sick.

Earlier this year, thousands of people flooded the U.S. Food and Drug Administration with complaints of animals becoming ill or dying after consuming certain pet foods.

The result was a recall of hundreds of brands of China-made pet food containing wheat gluten found to be tainted with melamine. That was followed by several others ranging from tires and toothpaste to toys and medicines.

The latest in the line of Chinese product safety scares is recycled chopsticks � a Beijing factory sold up to 100,000 used pairs a day without any form of disinfecting, the Beijing News reported"

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I'm not trying to scare you, just give you information. This whole recall thing was scary and made me feel I didn't know who to trust anymore.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:41 pm
by richmauer
The ones we buy are not the same. This is from my brands website. I believe they are safe:

Waggin� Train Brand Chicken Jerky Tenders

Proven SAFE over and over again.

Reno, NV � Waggin� Train Brand Chicken Jerky Tenders is the largest selling chicken jerky brand and has an unblemished safety record and has NOT been recalled now or ever in the company's history .

ADI Pet, Inc., the makers of Waggin� Train Chicken Jerky Tenders, wants to clarify news/ media reports that �chicken jerky� has been pulled from stores shelves without mention of the affected brand name (Bestro), thus confusing and alarming Waggin� Train consumers unnecessarily .

Waggin� Train Brand is completely safe and has never had a single positive laboratory test nor incident of bacterial contamination. This is a record to be proud of considering the fact that we make over 20 million pounds of Waggin Train Chicken Jerky Tenders annually with approximately 80 million pounds of fresh chicken tenderloins . �We take product safety very seriously and implement the appropriate steps to insure a continuation of this exemplary safety record� states Jerry Peters , President , ADI Pet Inc.

The brand pulled , Bestro and the manufacturers Shanghai Bestro Trading or Pingyang Pet Products which have been named in news articles surrounding �chicken jerky� pulled from store shelves are in no way associated with nor supply product for the Waggin� Train Brand.

Peters further stated �We start production by selecting premium chicken tenderloins and then produce and package Waggin� Train Chicken Jerky Tenders in a sanitary facility to human grade standards.

Our facilities are managed utilizing stringent safety and quality guidelines and are regularly inspected by our retailers and SGS, one of the world�s largest and most respected inspection companies.�

In addition to our strict handling we further sterilize every package of Waggin� Train Brand Chicken Jerky , after it has been packaged and sealed, using Irradiation methods that meet USDA standards and follow the World Health Organization recommendation for sterilization of food for human consumption. While not required by law we feel this extra measure of safety, in addition to our human grade handling and processing, is essential in assuring safety for all of our beloved Pets.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:04 am
by adajadesmom
I'm glad to see they're not associated with the tainted brand. :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:04 pm
by Melissa and Raven
Hello everyone,

Diet is the subject I love talking about most when it comes to dogs. Having a dog with primary seizure activity who is also highly allergenic has tested me in ways I've never been tested.

I'm a strong supporter of dogfoodanalysis.com. I posted it a couple months back. This site was developed by Boxerworld.com the largest and oldest on-line dog forum on the internet. Many canine nuritionists and years of experience have reviewed almost every dog food I've ever heard of. But if you don't want to believe that site...check out dogaware.com, or the many others available now.

Please, please, revisit what you feed your dogs. Don't feed foods with artificial colouring, persevatives such as BHT, BHA or especially Ethoxyquin.

Someone mentioned...Milk bones...YIKES! This is just my opinion...but for a healthy dog, I suppose they can't be harmful...but with all of the man-made ingredients in them, especially the BHT...I wouldn't feed it to my epileptic dog. Kinda like trying to blow out a trick candle. And I believe the Guardian Angel website states to stay away from artificial perservatives as well...although I can't find it right now.

When it comes to dog food....I just ask myself, Natural vs Not-natural, its not rocket science to me.

A lot of people disagree, and I respect that, but a lot of people really just don't grasp nutrition. My mom's poor chihuahua has been suffering with allergies for years. Do you think my mom can grasp trying to find out what she is allergic too? Nope, she just takes her to the vet, puts her on Hills Allergy (I'm shuddering at the thought) puts her on the steriods they give her, it clears up...then the cycle starts all over again. I'd like to grab her and shake her....but she's my mom...I voice my opinion on the situtation....but there really isn't more I can do if I want a relationship with her. And I do.

Please just re-visit your ingredient pannel on the side of the bag/can. And ask yourself..."Would this be good for me, even in small amounts, every day of my life?"

Oh...and Raven and George are looking for some more friends on Dogster...so if your pooch is on there...look us up!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:06 pm
by skrpio
Hi Melissa
A person after my own. The simple way to feed a dog to to ask if that is what they would get in the wild. They cannot use a can opener, a microwave or an oven so why feed it.
I attend a puppy class with Brock and I am amazed at the lack of knowledge that the owners have. The lady who runs the class feeds a BARF diet to her Bostons and when she advises raw food so many ask if the dog is allowed it !!!!! So many think that if they get the taste of blood or raw meat they will turn into killers.
I think a lot of the problems come from the vets and the pet stores who advise that the dry food is the best cause it has so many ingredients in it but do not mention that the $$$$ go to them.
Around October/November Brock was getting a certain amount of biscuits with his meat (due to him having to eat soooo much food) but I ended up with his coat falling out in huge quantities and the remaining hair was dry, he had terrible dandruff and he had horrible spots all over him. Many told me it was mange so off he went to the vet and $250 later he was on antibiotics and the vet said put him on - you guessed it Hills Science allergy and also sold me special shampoo at $45 a bottle. I said no to the food and he was a bit abrupt and told me I would have to put up with him looking like a moth eaten carpet. The medication and shampoo did not work. Once the meds had finished the spots came back.
Lady running puppy classes said stop the biscuits, add a teaspoon of oil like safflower or olive on his food and give him some sardines every few days. On top of that he gets showered with Head and Shoulders anti dandruff at $7 bottle. Well in two months his coat has grown back thick and beautifully red. Dandruff and spots have gone and the redness around his eyes has disappeared.
Turns out he was ultra sensitive to wheat in the dog biscuits.
The problem is with most of the dry food is that wheat is the basic ingredient.
Dogs do not raid wheat fields for food. Neither do they eat corn, rice or undigested vegetables or fruit. The only time they would get this in the wild is by eating the contents of their preys stomach.

To continue my ramblings - there was a guy on here a while ago who brought up the way in which wild carnivors ate their food.
Over a few days they ate first the stomach contents ( the predigested greens), then they ate the muscle tissue, the meaty bits, the grissle, the skin and then the bones. By this time they were gorged with food and did not eat again for several days as to give their bodies time to digest the meal.
BTW - Brock got best of breed at the latest dog show.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:11 pm
by MK's mom
Wahooo!!!! Way to go Brock!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:25 pm
by Melissa and Raven
Allergies are almost as difficult to live with as Epilepsy. And to think people understand that perhaps a seizure can be triggered by a neighbourhood that sprayed pesticides, yet they cannot grasp that it's the pesticide in their dogs food? Crazy to me. I know children that are allergic to red food dye...they all of a sudden become out of control and even violent, yet the same people can't understand why their dog may have seizures or allergies? Huh?

As a matter of fact...I often wonder if dog aggression is caused by some of the ingredients in the foods we feed them? Why wouldn't it be?

Yes, way to go Brock....

And Westminster is Monday and Tuesday...CAN'T WAIT!

I play the "name that breed" game with my husband and we try to guess the breed before the announcer says it. Actually...I play the game, he pokes fun at me. He humors me by calling every breed "A POODLE!"
Grrrrr....LOL.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:09 am
by adajadesmom
Silly me...Here I am paying good money for Innova and still giving my babies Milkbones. No more. I had a hard time reading the ingredients on those but I guess kind of figured they're an old original style biscuit. I HAVE noticed that Ada has little spots near her feet where the fur seems very thin. Maybe that's the problem. A while ago, I was baking my own treats (ground turkey or lean beef with whole oatmeal and egg) and I don't recall her having these spots. I was being kind of cheap as the Innova biscuits are expensive, huge and hard to break into smaller pieces without ending up with a bunch of powder.

Back to baking...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:19 am
by adajadesmom
Okay, I just went to milkbone.com and got the list of ingredients.
Can you help me by pointing out what the bad is? (I'm still stopping using them, but am curious what the heck I missed...it's so complicated!) Thanks!

Ingredients in "small biscuits":
Wheat Flour, Wheat Bran, Beef Meal And Beef Bone Meal, Milk, Wheat Germ, Beef Fat Preserved With Tocopherols, Salt, Dicalcium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Brewers Dried Yeast, Malted Barley Flour, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate {Vitamin E}, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, D-Activated Animal Sterol {Source Of Vitamin D3}), Sodium Metabisulfite (Dough Conditioner), Minerals (Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide {Source Of Iodine}).

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:48 pm
by Melissa and Raven
You are correct, that list doesn't look bad. Still something you cannot feed to an dog with a wheat allergy, but fine for a healthy dog. I'd have to go to 'gradding dog kibble" webisite (I posted under diet a few months back and look up every ingredient to find out, but off hand...not bad)

Here is the ingredient list I pulled off a different Milk-Bone ingredient list.

And it's full of stuff I wouldn't feed either of dogs. (BHT, Red, Blue and Yellow dyes specifically)


Wheat Flour, Wheat Bran, Beef Meal and Beef Bone Meal, Poultry By-Product Meal, Beef Fat (Preserved with Tocopherols), Wheat Germ, Salt, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Bacon Fat (Preserved with BHT, Propyl-Gallate, and Citric Acid), Dicalcium Phosphate, Brewers Dried Yeast, Titanium Dioxide, Malted Barley Flour, Iron Oxide, Sodium Metabisulfite, Vitamins & Minerals (Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Calcium Carbonate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodie (Source of Iodine), Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Artificial Flavor (Source of Sausage Flavor), Red 40, Blue 1, Yellow 6, Yellow 5

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:09 pm
by adajadesmom
Thanks, Melissa! I can see now why I was confused. I checked out their other kinds of treats (besides the plain one's I listed ingredients for) and found pretty much the rest of them contain BHT. I cringe knowing the treats I used to give my dogs (snausages, jerky treats, multiple milkbone products, etc.)
I vow to be a better mommy to all my dogs from here on out!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:25 pm
by skrpio
Problem is you just about need to have a degree in science to be able to read the ingredients.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:03 am
by adajadesmom
Ain't that the truth!