No corn, soy & wheat

Questions about the influence of diet and metabolism on seizures.

Moderator: Box40Rin

jack's mom
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am
Location: Kansas

Post by jack's mom » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:47 am

Jack made it through his "seizure due date" and is now on his 16th day without a seizure (1-2 days past his due date). This has never happened before! I will take my small miracles however i can get them. Jack's thyroid test was off the charts in all areas except for the T4 autoantibodies and he suffers from pretty bad allergies. I attribute this success to starting Jack on Soloxine and changing his food and treats to grain, wheat, corn and soy free food. Yeeah Jack!
Jody
4 years old AM bulldog
June 07 - 1st seizure
PB 150mgs 2X a day
Soloxine, KBr, Zonisamide 250mg 2X a day

MTM
Posts: 73
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:12 am
Location: Midwest, USA

Post by MTM » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:29 am

Yay for Jack! That is great to hear!
~Marie
Epi:
Murfy -forever free but forever missed <3
Toby -74 lbs, 8.5 yrs old, black lab mix
Meds:
258 mg Phb, .9 mg Thyrosyn and 300 mg Zonisamide BID. Also 575 mg NaBr daily.

skrpio
Posts: 1143
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:34 pm
Location: Auckland , New Zealand

Post by skrpio » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:07 pm

Glad it seems to be working. We take for granted so many things and it is not until you have to cross check everything you find out probable causes.
GO JACK.
Jane
In loving memory of my special KiKi Bean
Seizure free forever now
Nov 25th 2002 - Nov 1st 2006
Dogue De Bordeaux

jack's mom
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am
Location: Kansas

Post by jack's mom » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:51 am

Jack had 3 seizures Friday night, all within 1 1/2hrs, two of which were only 10 minutes apart. he was in the backyard when his third one hit, after the the seizure he started this pitiful high pitched howling, had no idea where he was, who he was or who we were. It totally wiped him out. Once we got him inside he kept trying to pace, would stumble and fall down. Valium had no effect. It was absolutely horrible. I think these were his worst yet. Called the vet the next day desparate for help and he recommended increasing Pheno to 120mg twice a day and said we might think about doing an MRI on Jack. So frustrating. My poor boy.
Jody
4 years old AM bulldog
June 07 - 1st seizure
PB 150mgs 2X a day
Soloxine, KBr, Zonisamide 250mg 2X a day

MK's mom
Posts: 1708
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 am
Location: Michigan

Post by MK's mom » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:00 am

YOu might try clorazapate instead of the valium, it worked better for MK.

Vivian
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
__________________________________
MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

skrpio
Posts: 1143
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:34 pm
Location: Auckland , New Zealand

Post by skrpio » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:21 pm

Jack is a big boy. We had to double KiKi's initial dose of PB as she was still clustering up to 200mg twice a day. She was not on any other drugs. Fortunately she did not have any of the ataxia problems that some dogs have. So you may have a way to go with the tinkering on his meds. Hang in there - it will come right. Sometimes it just takes a while.
Did you try the ice pack treatment? Or you could add Taurine to his meds. It seems to work for MK.
Jane
In loving memory of my special KiKi Bean
Seizure free forever now
Nov 25th 2002 - Nov 1st 2006
Dogue De Bordeaux

jack's mom
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am
Location: Kansas

Post by jack's mom » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:31 am

Thank you all for your suggestions. I did ask my vet about clorazopate, he researched it and said he didn't like the way it interacts with Pheno. Not sure what he meant by that. Frankly, i forgot about the ice pack. When Jack seizes, my finacee comforts him, i separate my dobie from Jack cause she sniffs and pokes at him and generally makes a mess cause Jack loses control of his bladder. Then i run to get the mop cause when Jack gets up he will slip and fall in his urine, then i run and get his valium. I will call my vet and ask about the Taurine today.
Jody
4 years old AM bulldog
June 07 - 1st seizure
PB 150mgs 2X a day
Soloxine, KBr, Zonisamide 250mg 2X a day

MK's mom
Posts: 1708
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 am
Location: Michigan

Post by MK's mom » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:42 am

It was my neuro whose expertise is in seizure management that put MK on clorazapte. MK is also on Pb and Kbr, so I doubt that the clorazapate will hurt your kid, but it's certainly up to you.

V
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
__________________________________
MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

momtomax
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:40 am

Clorazopate

Post by momtomax » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:54 am

I am meeting with a Vet who makes home visits Friday and will ask her about interaction with PB. Max had his first seizure since being on the PB this Tuesday (first seizure 12/21/07, on PB since 2/15/08). The clorazopate is the only drug that gets him to rest. The valium was also useless for him.

I'll reply back if I find out more.

Christine

jack's mom
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:45 am
Location: Kansas

Post by jack's mom » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:28 am

Christine, did you ever get an answer from your vet about the clorazapate?
Jody
4 years old AM bulldog
June 07 - 1st seizure
PB 150mgs 2X a day
Soloxine, KBr, Zonisamide 250mg 2X a day

pompom
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:43 pm

Re: No corn, soy & wheat

Post by pompom » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:47 pm

I ran into this post and yes, it makes so much sense that corn, wheat, and soy, especially the GMO versions of all can be detrimental to your animals health, not just to that of humans.
Our organ structures are fairly similar, so if something is known to be detrimental to human health, in terms of diet, then we should always investigate further the effects of certain, so-called "foods" on our pets' health.

It's important to talk about healthy dog nutrition. I good site I just found here mentions vitamins for dogs and their importance: http://www.petvitaminz.com We need to ensure our dogs are getting what they need to combat certain issues like the ones mentioned above.

Dogs must be cared for the way we should care for a child; organic, clean foods are always best.

Thanks for listening.

Post Reply