A great run ended - starting over again

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Mandypop
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A great run ended - starting over again

Post by Mandypop » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:26 am

The Monster returned on Thurs 5th March at 6:15pm. I had forgotten how ghastly this monster is.

Poppy had been seizure free since starting on phenobarb on 24th Dec 2006. I can't understand what went wrong, but can only think she somehow managed to 'spit' her tablet out. Nothing else has changed in her routine.

I am now back to waking every time she moves or makes a noise. I need some sleep!

Poppy is due her blood and liver function test in April, but I think I will get the vet to run them sooner.
Poppy - 9 year old whippet/greyhound (20 kg)

First seizure- 17th Oct 2006
Last seizure - 17th Nov 2009

90mg Pb twice daily
320mg KBr daily

MK's mom
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Post by MK's mom » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:21 am

Wow, with a run like that you must have thought it was all over with forever. There must be something environmental that is causing Poppy's seizures??

I hope she gets another 2 + years seizure free, you're very lucky.

Vivian
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
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MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

Carolyn
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Post by Carolyn » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:37 am

Wow is right! 2 years. I was really dissapointed when Kiya broke her 10 month streak. I think I've gotten better at handling myself now. I try to convince myself it is what it is, theres nothing I can do about it and I try not to let it get to me. After hearing from a woman once who hadn't had a seizure in many years but still had to take meds I accepted the fact that chances are this is forever for my girl. I hope we all can keep long, long seizure free periods.
Carolyn
Kiya 11yr Shiloh Shepherd
PB 60mg am 90mg pm, 1teas kbr 1200mg, turmeric paste
1000mg milkthistle bid
First seizure 11/27/05
Last seizure 5/21/15

skrpio
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Post by skrpio » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:25 pm

What a bummer to have a streak like that broken. Let's hope that she did spit out a tablet that caused it.
Jane
In loving memory of my special KiKi Bean
Seizure free forever now
Nov 25th 2002 - Nov 1st 2006
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Mandypop
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Post by Mandypop » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:42 am

Hi Carolyn

I too have accepted that Poppy has this condition and will have to take medication for the rest of her life. At the beginning I was horrified to think that she would have to be on Pb forever!

I really do think that this was a case of her not taking her tablet in the morning and her Pb levels dropped too low and hence the seizure that evening (just before her next dose of Pb).

Last year, my vet did suggest that we maybe start to lower the dose and try to wean her off. I was against this, and this episode has confirmed to me that she will most likely stay on meds for life now.

Hopefully this was just a one off!
Poppy - 9 year old whippet/greyhound (20 kg)

First seizure- 17th Oct 2006
Last seizure - 17th Nov 2009

90mg Pb twice daily
320mg KBr daily

deliboss
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Post by deliboss » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:04 pm

wow what an amazing run. I'm sorry to see that it got stopped. I would have to agree that it is possible that the pill got loose! Hopefully no more go wandering off in the future. I always give a dog cookie with a little peanut butter to be safe, he's on too many pills to have on fall out or get stuck in his big ol cheeks :)

Donna
So-co - Pit bull mix (epilepsy free), female 8yr
Kane - Pit bull mix, male 6yr
First (that we know of)- 11/10/05
Latest - 03/11/09
Phenobarbital- 97.2- 2pills twice daily
Potassium Bromide- 900mg twice daily
Zonisamide- 150mg twice daily

Mandypop
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Post by Mandypop » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:42 am

Well, it obviously wasn't a missed Pb tablet. Poppy had another seizure this morning at 2:10am.

I was woken by her screaming (She has never done that before during a seizure).

I'm making an appointment at the vets, so that we can talk things through. If they are happening every couple of weeks, it means that the medication is no longer keeping the seizures at bay, and she probably needs the Pb upping or another drug added.

I feel totaly deflated by this, as I really thought we had this beat. I'm hoping something can be done for her.
Poppy - 9 year old whippet/greyhound (20 kg)

First seizure- 17th Oct 2006
Last seizure - 17th Nov 2009

90mg Pb twice daily
320mg KBr daily

MK's mom
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Post by MK's mom » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:27 am

I thought you had it beat, too! It makes you wonder how she could go a couple of years without an episode and it's starting up again now!! I feel for you, hopefully your vet can tweak her meds and you can enjoy another couple of years sans the monster.

Vivian
Nathan
3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
__________________________________
MK
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
May the shamrocks fall softly sweetpea

Mandypop
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Update

Post by Mandypop » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:45 am

Poppy's results came back last week. Her Pb is in therapeutic range, and her liver is coping well. So we are no closer to knowing why her seizures started up again.

I'm keeping a diary in case I can find some sort of pattern, but hoping that this was just a 'hiccup' and we will have another great run seizure free.

If the seizures continue every couple of weeks, I'll discuss her medication with the vet.
Poppy - 9 year old whippet/greyhound (20 kg)

First seizure- 17th Oct 2006
Last seizure - 17th Nov 2009

90mg Pb twice daily
320mg KBr daily

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