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Post by janmalone » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:38 am

Hi Everyone, I have just registered and am looking for any advice anyone can give me, Jinks my Border Collie started fitting at 18mths he is now just over 3yrs, he is progressively getting worse and currently fits 9 time in a 24hr period every 6-7 weeks, it was suggested to me from CESG that he could be sensitive to Valium and I should avoid it, when I asked my vet she seemed unconcerned, has anyone had issues with Valium/Dazipan and knows of any other home emergency drug that can be used. Our vets seems very closed to any suggestions we make ie trying alternative drugs such as Vivatonin or trying supplements that have Zinc Magnesium and Vit b in. Has any one any suggestions I would love to be able to control the cluster but seem to get nowhere. I am considering changing Vets but again how do you know they will be any better as our current vets assured us they had good experience in handling epi dogs but they seem to go by the book and don't think out of the box to help tailor to individual dogs needs.
Jinks Born Nov 2004 Border Collie
90gm Ephipen twice
1250Kbr per day

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Post by adajadesmom » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:12 am

Hi Jinks, (that sounds funny)
Chlorazapate is one that can be used in place of valium. I haven't tried it yet, but a member suggested it as her dog wasn't responding well to the valium.
Have you tried potassium bromide along with the PB? If your vet has good experience, they would know about this combination.

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Post by MK's mom » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:39 am

HI Jinks,

My boy responds better to the clorazapate. If you vet isn't open to suggestions, you need to find another one!

There has been more than one Border Collie on this board with seizures. I don't know if you give flea or heartworm medication in the UK, but the herding breeds are sensitive to them.

3.5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 7/26/2013
Last seizure 3/24/2014
5 yo Irish Setter boy
First seizure 1/25/06
Last seizure 9/4/2009

Aug 17, 2004- Sept. 22, 2009
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Post by skrpio » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:13 pm

Get a new vet. Talk to other vets and see if you feel that they know what they are talking about. So many do not know and just bluff it.
What sort of treatments are you using for the fleas? Do not use anything with a PLUS in it as herding dogs are sensitive to this type of stuff.
9 fits in 24 hrs is excessive and I would be concerned that he might go into status. Has your vet given you anything to control these ? There are other drugs you can use.
If your current vet is not giving you ideas on controling clusters you definately need to change ASAP.
Check epi-guardian angels for the icepack treatment as this may help with the clusters.
In loving memory of my special KiKi Bean
Seizure free forever now
Nov 25th 2002 - Nov 1st 2006
Dogue De Bordeaux

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Post by claires friend » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:14 am

I think I would change vets too. Valium makes Morgan very pacey. We try not to use it unless absolutely necessary. When we use it , is the only time she has a post-seizure stage.
Susan Marie
Morgan -Foster Golden, now ours FOREVER !!
First seizure Aug 16, 2006 @9 months old ,very low thyroid
She has been with me since the end of July 07
150mg PB BID
.5 soloxine BID
400 Kbr BID

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